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 Post subject: Re: The Machine Stops ... Preorder
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:53 pm 
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lordofthehornets wrote: (AFAIK, HW hasn't used analog synths since about '96?)...


They might use them less but they have still used them since then. In this interview from 2005 Brock says he is still using the VCS3: http://www.starfarer.net/schlbrck.html

Whether he does now or not I don't know...

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Etherealise wrote:I got mine last week. I have only listened to it once so far but I think it might be the best HW since Alien 4. The production sounds a bit more natural this time around.

I couldn't get into Hexagone or Yum Yum but the rest was solid.



I think Hexagone might be my fave!!

But Tunnels is seeping into the blood fast and there is much greatness on this.
(to include the "moon")

I also love Yum Yum!!

To be honest (hand over Dave and crews eyes for a sec), I do still notice a lack of sound "whatever it is" as compared to records of yesterday also (presumably) recorded at the lodge, such as "Business Of" or "Electric Tepee" but when I use surround it makes up.

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mike coleman wrote:
I think Hexagone might be my fave!!

But Tunnels is seeping into the blood fast and there is much greatness on this.
(to include the "moon")

I also love Yum Yum!!

To be honest (hand over Dave and crews eyes for a sec), I do still notice a lack of sound "whatever it is" as compared to records of yesterday also (presumably) recorded at the lodge, such as "Business Of" or "Electric Tepee" but when I use surround it makes up.

Having a Hawkwind and giving us more like this is such a blessing



I love Hexagone too.

As regards the sound, I think what reveals the, shall we say, 'affordable' nature of the recording process is the drum sound. It's very hard to get a good drum sound 'on the cheap' - nice recording studios cost big money - whereas things like synths and programmed beats are very cheap to produce 'in the box' (ie on a computer).

The flip side to recording at Dave's farm is the creative process can be a bit more flexible.

'Business' and 'Tepee' are quite electronic in their nature. I think it's no coincidence that (for me) the best sounding recent album is 'Stellar Variations' which is, again, quite electronica-focussed.


I notice the vinyl single of Solitary Man was mastered at Abbey Road. Does it show in the sound quality?

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Cheers for the what surely must be spot on insight SA....

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re: The single

I would say, I think a little bit, by george!

I did NOT notice that situation and I have played it a few times now
By the way, I seem to be too old and stupid as yet to notice much diff for side A, so I think one of pure royal bloodline will handle this up ahead!!

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SteamAbacus wrote:As regards the sound, I think what reveals the, shall we say, 'affordable' nature of the recording process is the drum sound. It's very hard to get a good drum sound 'on the cheap' - nice recording studios cost big money - whereas things like synths and programmed beats are very cheap to produce 'in the box' (ie on a computer).

The flip side to recording at Dave's farm is the creative process can be a bit more flexible.

'Business' and 'Tepee' are quite electronic in their nature. I think it's no coincidence that (for me) the best sounding recent album is 'Stellar Variations' which is, again, quite electronica-focussed.


Agreed it is very hard to get a good acoustic drum sound. I know that the 90's albums utilised electronic kits whereas to me this album sounds like an acoustic kit, but it is hard to tell as the drums are not high on clarity. But all in all I prefer the sound... it sounds a bit more 'rock'.

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I'm another Hexagone fan. Was played at the fantastic gig tonight!

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Who sang the lyrics Barnett?
I liked Fred's rendition on the album.

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Dibs sang it in London. Did a good job but I do like the fragility of Fred's vocals on the album.

I tend to like people who aren't 'proper' singers.

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I just listened through the album for the second time and liked it even more this time around. I admit I skipped the couple of tracks I don't like, but this really is the best HW album in a long time and has some really nice stuff on it.

Even though the production is not deliberately retro the whole thing seems to have a 70's spirit in many ways.

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It can't work as individual tracks.
You have to let the whole album play as background music.
I get more meaning from it every listen.
I think Hexagone is referring to the shape of the underground
chambers the albums meaning is based upon.

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yep, a really exciting album,
much of it in the 70's spirit, yet somehow fits the new, sometimes , reluctant age of our lives.
currently being listened to daily in my garage as I rebuild a lotus seven inspired race car (again), Its driven to the max and suffers mechanical and bodily wear!
it is Brock powered and as always is superb and sublime. (the music, not the car, its pinto powered!)
The mad Frenchie Tim Blakes influence coming through in the whooshie keyboard backing, big contribution I am sure, missed him in the recent live concerts I went to. Hope to see him again soon.
Haz is a dream addition. Always is straight in character, Haz you know what I mean.
Mr Dibs goes from strength to strength with his spacey vocals and has become a real front man.
Thanks to all the Hawkwind family as I hurtle along at breakneck speed.


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"Hexagone" really sticks in my mind more than any other track. Not sure why!

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Lost Johnny wrote:"Hexagone" really sticks in my mind more than any other track. Not sure why!


Because it's really good? :mrgreen:


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Fred's voice gives Hexagone a lot of clout.
I saw a picture of him playing with Krankschaft a couple of nights back.
He must be on the mend.

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