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mike coleman wrote:

graham wrote:The current "going rate" for that BBC thing is a bit under £1000 (US $1500), isn't it? The last one went for around £850, as I recall.

There's no way I'd buy Hawkwind stuff as an investment for my old age. Beatles, maybe. But I'm sorry to say I wouldn't risk trying to "corner the market" with Hawkwind matrix rarities

You know really, and thank you for providing me another in, I'd like to say that I obviously love my total BS, but with grains of truth mixed in. It may sound egomaniacal, if that is even a word, (of me), but I feel like for some years it was me setting a lot of the values on rare items, or at least I played my part.
None of this has ever been about a nest-egg for me, only a passion for what I consider to be the "coolest band this earth has ever had upon it"
One day some of this stuff will get catalogued, and people will come together to do so. Doesn't mater to us about money, just that Hawkwind gave us a 'part of ourseleves' that we needed, and something to do.
Also, a crazy friend in New York and I were joking on the phone about a year ago, that if Jimi Hendrix was suddenly back from the dead and he and Hawkwind were gigging the same night at different clubs across the street, we'd both be at the Hawkwind gig. But I was just now thinking how I might walk into the Hendrix show and find him there and say "HAHAHAAHAHAA"....and yes, I would say you are dead right about the BBC value, unless the CD has brought it down.

Valuation of records is a pointless task IMO. They are worth what someone will pay on that day, in a given place. I personally wouldnt pay any where near 1000 dollars for the BBC disc. But that is just me. However if it was the missing link in my collection, eg I had everything other than the BBC disc in Mint, then I would pay 1000 dollars for it. But since I have a rather small collection in comparison to others, I have a long way to go. I personally couldnt care less about how much my records are worth. Its a hobby that harms no one, and I find the history and the details fascinating. I personally buy about 20 records a month, which as a broad figure cost say 300-500 euro a month. I dont run a car, prefering a bicycle. So I am quids in. No Car, No Petrol, No Car Tax, No Car Insurance, but instead, 20 Hawkwind records a month. Having said that I dont need a car in Munich, but also having said that, I have seen IDIOTS, with cars driving 100 yards to buy a loaf of bread.

I also have a small tale to tell. It struck me at the time as quite poignant. We used to live in a quite large and quite nice house in the UK. We had rooms full of books, musical instruments, posters on the walls, as well as paintings. I had hifi in every room, CDs, records and computers everywhere. My kids used to run around in the woods outside, come back covered in mud and thrash around on an instrument, reading books, doing art etc. We never even had a TV. My neighbour was quite the opposite. He was a "Manager", played golf on Sunday. She was a very neat lady who got "Next" boxes delivered every week. He used to mow his lawn, making it very obvious that the was a dividing line between his fence and mine. Then one day the very neat and proper lady invited me into her home. "We have new parquet flooring", she said. I walked in there sterile home, and what struck me was there was nothing inside. Not one book, not one big of art, nothing..... Just a leather sofa in the living room, facing a huge TV with Sky Sports on it.

jamun wrote:

mike coleman wrote:

graham wrote:The current "going rate" for that BBC thing is a bit under £1000 (US $1500), isn't it? The last one went for around £850, as I recall.
Valuation of records is a pointless task IMO. They are worth what someone will pay on that day, in a given place. I personally wouldnt pay any where near 1000 dollars for the BBC disc. But that is just me. However if it was the missing link in my collection, eg I had everything other than the BBC disc in Mint, then I would pay 1000 dollars for it. But since I have a rather small collection in comparison to others, I have a long way to go. I personally couldnt care less about how much my records are worth. Its a hobby that harms no one, and I find the history and the details fascinating. I personally buy about 20 records a month, which as a broad figure cost say 300 euro a month. I dont run a car, prefering a bicycle. So I am quids in. No Car, No Petrol, No Car Tax, No Car Insurance and 20 Hawkwind records a month. Do the maths?

and here I come (quickly, as usual), with my spin. But first I express disappoinment, as I was hoping for a review of the vid, since my browser and computer are so outdated I can't watch it and why?? because all I care about is rare records and I too am an automotive non-believer (thanks Trev for the term, and the excuse, actually), and further, I skip food drugs and drink AND even furniture so that I can have things like the BBC LP. I am trying to imagine how I would keep from seeking suicide tourism in Switzerland if I was a commoner without it!!! But seriously, I am kidding, and I think one of your favorite bands has it in the lyrics "everybody's got their own way to do it". I would catagorize you, as described above, as the normal 'sensible' collector, but for me it is about Hawkwind, and before this was on CD it was a big deal, and to me it still is to a lesser degree. Whille I agree with you part-way on valuation, I don't agree totally. Some of this stuff can have a "base value" set, and then you know if you got a deal or got ripped off. If you can get a BBC LP in good nick for 1000, then you got a good deal I would say. I don't think your GOING to get one for that amount now, unless it's lesser condition. and just for the "record", I prefer the rare stuff and the expensive stuff as opposed to "more"....But that's me

mike coleman wrote:I prefer the rare stuff and the expensive stuff as opposed to "more"....But that's me

Actually I tend to agree. I was getting the "more" first with the hope of filling in the top rarities later. But even the common stuff is actually extremely difficult to find in Mint these days. In Vg its easy but not Mint. I seem to been caught in an endless pursuit of common records in mint without having a Gem in the collection. Well I have a few but not the top five.

jamun wrote:

mike coleman wrote:I prefer the rare stuff and the expensive stuff as opposed to "more"....But that's me

Actually I tend to agree. I was getting the "more" first with the hope of filling in the top rarities later. But even the common stuff is actually extremely difficult to find in Mint these days. In Vg its easy but not Mint. I seem to been caught in an endless pursuit of common records in mint without having a Gem in the collection. Well I have a few but not the top five.

And on that I agree with you too, as this is part of what I meant. I think it is safe to say, and NOT bragging, that I had the largest (and mintest, for sure) gatehering of HW in the USA, and one of the best in the world. Imagine losing it all and starting again. What I have acheived sicne 2007 is nothing short of miraculous, I have had to come up with so many "crazy scams" in a heartbeat. But I can likely never be a completist again, and have had to learn to be happy for others like yourself, which is not a skill that used to come naturally to the likes of me. But I am getting good at it. Now, please, enough of this public LP promotion, we simply must remind what a headache it is, all the heartbreak, all the surface noise, all the damaged jackets, and please consider allowing record SALES on your site...ebaY alternative needed, and everybody need to purge that noisy format so they can keep up with the massive output!!

I think it is safe to say, and NOT bragging, that I had the largest (and mintest, for sure) gatehering of HW in the USA, and one of the best in the world.

How could anyone be 100% sure of such a statement?
Meaning...there could be scads of other non-bragging, private collectors lurking in the shadows of small towns and villa's all across the globe.
Just because they don't flaunt their inventory doesn't mean that they're not out there.
And they've got the rarities.
42 years worth by my estimates.

voilodian ghagnasdiak wrote:

I think it is safe to say, and NOT bragging, that I had the largest (and mintest, for sure) gatehering of HW in the USA, and one of the best in the world.

How could anyone be 100% sure of such a statement?
Meaning...there could be scads of other non-bragging, private collectors lurking in the shadows of small towns and villa's all across the globe.
Just because they don't flaunt their inventory doesn't mean that they're not out there.
And they've got the rarities.
42 years worth by my estimates.

(re-worded after thinking)
ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!
Ouch I hadn't realised I was bragging, or rather, after inflection, on a subconsious level I thought I could fly my crazy brand of entusiasm just fine, since it was mostly centered on vinyl, and I thought it would partially serve to "re-affirm". I did not calculate the perceptions from all angles correctly, and I suppose I was also tryting to use my "knowledege" to "sit up at the bar". I was having fun reflecting on the insanity level, got carried away. HIDEOUSLY EMBARRASING. nailed smack in the face.
I'll shut up about my own collecting unless sharing useful info.....