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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:41 pm 
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have to say i'm liking it very much .. on first listen i wasn't so sure but it's crept up on me and i play it every day at the moment..

it's got a lot of comforting familiarity about it .. shades of the wall .. the final cut .. animals ..
and the immediate intro harks back to the intro of dark side of the moon / pros and cons..
a well balanced album too i think..
the mastering i'm not too sure about though .. ..
i have the flac on my ipod and play at full volume .. unlike previous waters releases this one splits the ears when hitting those cresendo moments .. sadly ..
i would love to hear it remastered in a gentler way..
and rogers getting old now and hearing him straining on some of the vocals is .. well only human i guess.

as for the theme lyrically .. well it's war and politics as per usual .. i couldn't imagine roger singing about anything else and i'm comfortable with that ..
given that he has been touring the wall for an eternity now it's good to hear this new album ..
... hes doing a massive tour of the US with it at the moment.. hopefully if he plays the UK next year i will be forking out the hefty ticket price to go see him for sure.. ..

ps .. oops i just posted in the wrong forum .. this was for any other business lol


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Roger Waters new album - Is This The Life We
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I quite like the album and know exactly what you mean regarding comforting familiarity. The problem now is that the more I listen to it I can hear almost exact copies of song segments from both his solo work and Floyd, especially animals. It almost seems that he has forgotten what he has written previously and thinks that they are new songs. The lyrics are as you say exactly what you would expect from Roger Waters and I also agree that the mastering is not good. I haven't checked the running time but it seems to repeat very quickly when playing in the car.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Roger Waters new album - Is This The Life We
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In view of the amount of time elapsed since his last studio rock project, I was predicting\anticipating a throwback of sorts, seeing as Gilmour and Mason have finally called it quits making Lps.
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for me it didn't sound all that bad; thought it's strong material, and yes this sounds just like Pink Floyd - more than anything the post-Waters 'Floyd created, apart from Gilmour's trademark-guitar work, which I am okay without, appreciating instead the subtlety.

'comforting ' seems the perfect word for the humanity of Waters' musical genius, which hasn't dimmed in the least.

already I suspect this one is and always will remain for me Roger's best work


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also I notice it seems to be a headphones album ~ the difference listening to it with loudspeakers is surprising , for me it loses some of its Pink Floyd-ness without the cups.

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Some of RW's [ expressed ] ideology is fucked, but musically he is nearly unsurpassed as a creative genius.
The track "Wait For Her " is positively haunting ~ Waters at his best. Im very happy he made this Lp.


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Part one of that song deals with the contradictory duality and hypocrisy in dogmatic religion and its power over people, presumeably perceived by Waters, and yet from comments he's made in interviews he presents an inculcated predisposition to ancestral guilt ~ one of the central prevarications of judeo-christian doctrine.

Just an observation.


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vikmarlo wrote:, and yet from comments he's made in interviews he presents an inculcated predisposition to ancestral guilt


Was he brought up a Catholic by any chance?

A friend of mine (a lapsed Catholic) told me a story of when she was studying (as a probation worker - the degree also included social workers) : the lecturer asked the audience to raise their hands if they were a lapsed Catholic. Over half of them did!.

"Yeah, it's always like that", he said.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Roger Waters new album - Is This The Life We
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i just wish it had been mixed down as past releases were ..
it just sounds too claustrophobic .. too loud on most of those strings .. no spacing .. as if everything has just been layered ontop of each other ..
to be honest it sounds like it's been mixed down in a cardboard box by a rank amateur..
it just strikes me as odd .. that since PF- the wall .. every waters releases has had a fantastic sounding technical finesse to the production .. and this release just sounds out of place with that spacing of sound missing ..


all the same .. a damn fine album .. i will endeavour to say no more about it now .. lol ..
roll on,(i suspect) the eventual remaster ..


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Roger Waters new album - Is This The Life We
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@Steam :
Not sure about Waters' upbringing; though I read his father was a devout Christian.

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I'm now of the impression that the mastering is top ~ it's the mixing that is unusual, but I believe it may have been altogether intentional. Some elements are perfectly, exceptionally, audibly balanced, such as acoustic guitar, voice, piano, cello ~ while other elements sound strangely muffled,e.g. other voices and found-sounds, some of the bass elements... as if heard from a loud TV through the wall from the next room.
(distraction\ isolation?) Waters always was a genius in this way.

It is definitely a headphones album, not something to listen to whilst distracted or otherwise preoccupied.

... gets my vote for best album and Roger's best work, a brilliant masterpiece of 21st century socio-humanitarian exegesis from an artist of great thought-provoking ability and noble thirst, if somewhat lacking in provident guidance.


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It took me a while to get into - there are some nice elements from earlier work here and there - the track Picture That is straight off of Animals, but has its own potency. Deja Vu could have been on The Final Cut. The references to the passage of time between tracks - speaking clock etc, is typical Waters touch. I still find it odd that a multi-millionaire who likes fox hunting is shouting his mouth off at everyone else to stop the corporations and the killing! Still I think it's a good work, nonetheless. I wonder what became of his other project Heartland?


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Roger Waters new album - Is This The Life We
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More than 20 years since making a rock concept record, Roger Waters tells Rolling Stone he has finished a song for an album tentatively titled Heartland. Completed on lunch breaks during the elaborate Wall tour that ended in July, the untitled song confronts what Waters calls "religious extremism."

"I'm not sure what it will be called," Waters said in an interview Monday in Manhattan, where he will perform at the Bob Woodruff Foundation's Stand Up for Heroes benefit, part of this week's New York Comedy Festival. "I'll tell you what the first line is – I haven't told anyone else, and I may be sticking my head too far above the parapet – but the first line is, 'If I had been God . . . '"


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Interesting, JohnB!
I was going to suggest earlier that perhaps what began as Heartland ended up being repurposed into Is This The Life..., in the wake of Trump's White House victory. At least we know where that one song ended up!


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Listening now since I will need my controlled sleeping medication to sleep now until February I guess :)

Anyway, just the album cover, if it is the blacked out words makes it superior stuff before the music even hits :)

cheers for this confectioners chocolate treat


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Roger Waters new album - Is This The Life We
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interesting that the Independent gave the album only 2 out of 5 stars, whereas both Rolling Stone and Allmusic gave 4 out of 5. it's all subjective and many critics tend to focus too much on the perceived political aspects of Waters' lyrical composition, in some cases all but ignoring aesthetic and musical considerations, which from what I gather Waters himself invites to a certain degree, over-politicising his live performances to the point of prompting some concert-goers to get up and walk out in the middle of the show.
I don't listen to music for message or meaning in words, so it all seems a bit of missing the point to me.


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