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 Post subject: Superstition, Credulity, & Witch Hunts
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:04 am 
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this from BBC :

probably not much appetite for this, but one can only hope that will change as more and more people worldwide begin to see the potential threat to everyone from this sort of thing going unchecked, and allowed to persist.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39566136



Ms Poplevskaya told the BBC that victims - either gay or just perceived as gay - are being held at a detention centre.....

....Kadyrov spokesman Alvi Karimov denied the alleged persecution.
"You can't detain and repress people who simply don't exist in the republic," he said.




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 Post subject: Re: Superstition, Credulity, & Witch Hunts
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So either there's an entire country of millions of people which is the only one there's ever been where the entire population is absolutely 110% heterosexual... Or someone's bullshitting. I mean, why don't they just say "yes, we persecute people for really stupid reasons"? Otherwise someone might get the idea these "moral guardians of their nation" are ashamed of what they're doing.

And so they should be.


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 Post subject: Re: Superstition, Credulity, & Witch Hunts
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:30 am 
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I had (when first reading that ) thought of Sadam Hussein's having received 100% of the vote in Iraq's so-called "election" ~ a statistic I don't doubt; guessing that anyone who might've dared to not vote for him would most likely never be seen or heard from again.

A similar thing is going on in Pakistan ~ to even be accused of blasphemy (against Islam)
~ forget about fair trial or burden of proof ~ the mere suggestion will get a person summarily put to death, if not by official security forces then by vigilantes who congregate and rally with impunity

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 Post subject: Re: Superstition, Credulity, & Witch Hunts
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"Probably not much appetite for this" - I'm curious as to what you mean, vik?

Unfortunately, stuff like this report is all to common around the world. And don't forget, here in the UK it was only a little over 50 years ago that Alan Turing was forced to 'choose' between imprisonment or 'chemical castration' with DES, committing suicide a couple of years later. It was 2013 before he received an official pardon.




I think the real task is for each of us to identify and understand our own prejudices (we all suffer from them to a greater or lesser degree depending on our formative experiences and upbringing) and work to eradicate them.

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alway's felt sorry for oscar wilde - despite his primal instinct's and intransigence's


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 Post subject: Re: Superstition, Credulity, & Witch Hunts
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What I meant by that statement, Steam, is that I had doubts about the potential for this thread ~ not that I imagine folks here don't care, per se ~ just that I thought it might not be a popular topic for discussion here.

I agree with your statement that each of us needs to identify our own prejudices, in so much as it is the starting point to fighting prejudice in society. At the same time, open discussion and the 'calling-out' of serious human rights violations must not be forgone in lieu of self-perfection; if that were the strict criterion, then there would never be activism on any problematic issue.

Awareness is the only real tool with which people can solve society's most serious crises; especially the ones that start as isolated crimes targeting those ostracised individuals against whom hatred is perpetrated.

The more discussion which takes place in the effort to counter hate-speech/hate crime, the better off we all will be in the long run, IMO.

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Brown Dawn wrote:alway's felt sorry for oscar wilde - despite his primal instinct's and intransigence's

...end quote...


to whatever position Wilde's intransigence may have been apropos,
my heart goes out to anyone who falls victim to the plight of human ignorance; when it happens to the least one among us, it happens to us all.

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indeed Vik and agree - not sure which cloak i bear this evening - mr hyde lurk's - understanding oneself is an ongoing complex conundrum! - ain't no answer's - only question's!


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 Post subject: Re: Superstition, Credulity, & Witch Hunts
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you sure hit the nail on the head there, mate !

it was this very insight which prompted my latest 'signature ' tag-line, below

(if you're viewing the page on mobile format, the signature doesn't appear, as I'm sure you're aware ~
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" The Question Is The Answer " )

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and now, as predicted : the escalation and spiraling of the crisis into a vast threat of a very distinct undermining of justice.

From Associated Press
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ ... 7-16-00-15


I for one would be very surprised if Putin's government tripped over themselves to take swift action in investigation of this crime, given that in the past two decades Russia has received worldwide attention for their legal treatment of LGBT citizens, which has been referred to as one of the worst human rights records in the post-Soviet era. Since 2006, numerous regions in Russia have enacted various laws restricting the dissemination of educational literature on topics of biological and developmental aspects of human sexuality, psychological and emotional aspects of sexual behavior, sexual identity, historical, cultural, social, and moral forces affecting sexual issues, to underage minors who may be struggling with such issues. June 2013, a Russian federal law criminalizing the distribution of materials among minors in support of "non-traditional" sexual relationships, was enacted as an amendment to an existing "child protection" law.

Also a reason for my disenchantment with the prospects for justice is the fact that the overall political climate in Russia is believed by many international experts to be responsible for the assassination of numerous journalists there.

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