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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:54 pm 
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"PIES IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!"

"The pie at night: Meat and potato treat 'sent into space'"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-38329846

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Michael Moorcock Q&A on The Final Programme (film) for the BFI (inc. Hawkwind anecdotes)

http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-final-programme-qa-2010/

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http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-fin ... e-qa-2010/

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Unusual that !

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smugdruggler wrote:http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-final-programme-qa-2010/

Content Unavailable - This Video Is Not Authorised For Your Location

Unusual that !



Strange, as the bulk of the film content is only available by subscription.

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A clear & erudite view on collectivism, empire & self determination by Neil Kramer:
http://neilkramer.com/roamcast-20-the-e ... -a-reason/

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"Turning rebellion into money".....

"Syncing feeling lifts music industry"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38341251

Article about 'syncing' rights for placing music in commercials or tv with an interview with Cherry Red Records. Tangerine Dream mentioned (although the BBC seem to prefer Sting as their poster boy!).

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Hahaha Now, this is cool. Judge swore! In UK man is convicted for nazi insignia, (no freedom of the speech/opinion for those hehe) and he talk dirty to judge, but judge return to him in the same way hehe... Cool judge.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/ja ... misconduct

To bad there were not more people like this judge in 1933. We (humanity) because freedom of the speech or freedom of 'opinion' allowed Hitler to come on power in 1933, we just watched him how he makes big army until 1939 so he can attack and slaughter half of the world.
Even freedom of the speech and freedom of public opinion should have some limits.

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black adder wrote:

We (humanity) because freedom of the speech or freedom of 'opinion' allowed Hitler to come on power in 1933, we just watched him how he makes big army until 1939 so he can attack and slaughter half of the world.
Even freedom of the speech and freedom of public opinion should have some limits.


...end quote...

I have to disagree with your suggestion that human rights (freedom of expression, freedom of speech ~ both universally recognised cornerstones of democracy) are the reason Hitler and the nazis seized power, Black Adder.

What books do you have access to where you are? Are there public libraries in your region? Honest question ~ I don't know what your government allows you to have access to, in terms of historical documented information.


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I DO agree that freedom of speech should have limits ~ in fact it does in Canada & U.S. Thats why we have laws that state, for example:

One cannot go into a crowded theatre or arena and shout,
" FIRE !!! " ....why?
Because it falls under the category of inciting mass panic ~ a grave danger to all the people in that crowded area.


Threatening a person with bodily harm or malicious intent is not allowed for obvious reasons, and is not protected under freedom of speech.


Hate speech laws do not allow the instigation, by direct summons, of violence toward any person, group, or ethnicity, race, or religion.

*this topic seems to keep cropping up throughout various threads here !
I just posted (you might have spotted my frog) a summary of why it is that the prohibition of insignia is hypocrisy.


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BTW ~ I edited and changed the content of that frog-post, from innuendo to explicit reasoning.

...and thanks for sharing that link^ too, btw !
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what does it take to become a
motivational speaker (?)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=izExyFFpt30

I succeeded in managing to not focus on this woman's passion for her Christian faith, but rather her obvious fear of a hostile ideology from which she claims to have escaped, and her warning about an enemy that is succeeding in using our own fair system against us.

Her best advice : read the Quran for yourselves and decide if Islam is a religion of peace.

My advice ~ read also the history of Muhammad and the founding of Islam, and decide if Muhammed was a prophet of any Creator.
DO NOT BUY INTO THE GREAT LIE of "collective guilt" and "collective responsibility" for past-generations colonialism, failed foreign policies, and for the greed of corrupt leaders who've betrayed every one of us ~ their constituents ~ and betrayed the very nations they were sworn to uphold.


If we buy into that lie, we will be buying the erasure of all we hold dear.


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vikmarlo wrote:
black adder wrote:

We (humanity) because freedom of the speech or freedom of 'opinion' allowed Hitler to come on power in 1933, we just watched him how he makes big army until 1939 so he can attack and slaughter half of the world.
Even freedom of the speech and freedom of public opinion should have some limits.


...end quote...

I have to disagree with your suggestion that human rights (freedom of expression, freedom of speech ~ both universally recognised cornerstones of democracy) are the reason Hitler and the nazis seized power, Black Adder.

What books do you have access to where you are? Are there public libraries in your region? Honest question ~ I don't know what your government allows you to have access to, in terms of historical documented information.


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Uh :D... About books I can ask you the same question. I know many things which you can find to read about nazis. I know a lot from 1920 german working party before name NSDAP until 1945. I didnt know that I have to explain every sentence which I wrote like I am on court of law or something.

Yes, trust me, we were reading different books, we in east europe from you on west. We know something which you dont, and probobly you know something which we dont know. Thats normal for every country propaganda, like I did say about ww2 battles and ussr which many of you dont know. However, my point was on one thing, that all smart people new what hitler is and what NSDAP is, and that germans supported them. We can play mind games that it is fear, or brainwash etc... I dont care, they had support. So, in 1930's Germany should be invaded and hitler arrested and NSDAP destroyed, they didnt have so much weapons at begining. But no. Why? Well, there are probobly hundreds of reasons, interests etc... I dont care realy. Maybe one of the many reasons was bussiness, motors for german trucks in 1930's which I watched years ago in documentary, german or british I dont remember:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lants.html

(scroll til antisemitism part)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford

You saw from Leni Riefenstahl movies from early 1930's, only fool can not see what is going on in Germany in that time. Specialy from 1933 and Dachau... (1935 nurnberg rasist laws) Europe and world were silent, instead taking military action. So many dirt I see from this big countries bussiness interests that it is to much for me where I came from. When I was teen, I thought (because of civil war in 90's) that people from balkan region (ex Yugoslavia) can be biggest bastards, but you know than I started to read history, specialy ww2, and beyond that. Tons of info on dirty laundry from big countries... genocides, slaves, racist laws..... all that (except ww2, 4 years era here) is so strange to people where I came from, never before ww2 and never after that we didnt have any of that things or on the streets. Guys like Ford any like that could be never welcome to do bussiness here. It is very strange to us that some society can tolerate that. For us there is no excuse for those people of any kind, they would be arrested.

One more even worse strange thing which we can not understand, that people from those society tell us that we are not democratic, even we are against those nazi people, defending freedom... I always see that like someone try to make me a fool or something. If democracy are those people, or people marching with hitler picture, or nazi flags,you can keep this democracy for your self, we dont want it. For us marching nazis is not freedom of the speech, it is like celebrating murder. Unacceptable. Thats why I like more european countries from america. If of course I understand you right. Sorry, in some thing we are different worlds.

The same thing as Lemmy when he had 0 tolerance on bad stuff like religion (on nazis he always said 'bad guys always had best uniforms'. Thats because they were bad guys) he said for church in "Bad Religion": Evangelistic Nazis.

Point is, everything from nationalism til religion is bad stuff. That was a massage. Two artificial stuff which man invented not mother nature, are to blame for every war in history of human kind. But this is some other theme.


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Those laws Vik, sound good, but still, you said nazis can march on streets in america if they dont have hate signs but they can have hitler pictures or be in nazii uniforms. I cant imagine SS uniform marching on streets of america, country of human rights. If SS can have human rights, I woudnt live in that country.

Thats why we were shocked, I forgot to tell you, how many thousands of nazis were let go. You know, a SS man who was working in Treblinka (one documentary which was on youtube) describe how they were efficient??????? and he is free man??? hahaha .... How many kids he killed? This is democracy? Soviets and Mossad were much more efficient against those, but these nazis hide in usa, argentina, canada, australia... How some they didnt hide in ussr or israel? :D To be little bit sarcastic. But it is good question.


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It has long been known (by educated North Americans, anyway) that Ford had ties to Hitler. That and all the information you mention is out there for anyone to read.

I don't think the answer to eliminating prejudice, hatred and racism is enforcing restrictions on things like freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to peaceful assembly in public, freedom to disagree with government and to petition for change, all basic human rights.

That would be authoritarian
and exactly like Hitler was.

The answer, in my view, is education, knowledge, awareness and understanding, and above all disestablishmentarianism.

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I agree. But I will tell you Vik what our former president Tito said (he had biggest funeral in world): "everyone can be free in our country like he was born here except: nazis, fascist's, rasists, religion fanatics and people similar to them, they can not think they will be free here."

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science.



http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/ ... _medium=16



http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Voices/2017 ... 1485434394


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