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 Post subject: Links to obscure Hawkwind (and related) recordings
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:36 pm 
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As suggested by Graham in the 'Favourite track' thread, this is a thread to share links to obscure Hawkwind recordings that we might just not have heard.




I'll start the ball rolling with some obscurities I discovered yesterday on Steve Swindells' SoundCloud page.



Shot Down In The Night, Hawkestra, Brixton Academy, 2000
https://soundcloud.com/steve-swindells/shot-down-in-the-night-1

"This is a way too fast version of my song, with me singing. It was, as a result, a bit of a nightmare for me, especially when Dave Brock 'broke a string' and had to leave the stage, therefore not being able to do the high octaves and harmonies, as we'd rehearsed. Strangely enough, it was also the very first time that I'd ever sung lead vocals to a live audience - in this case 4.5K people!

That's Alan Davey on bass (not difficult to tell) and Huw Lloyd Langton on lead guitar, perhaps Jerry Richards on rhythm guitar. Who played the weird tambourine - why didn't he just play on the offbeat instead of shaking it around in a meaningless fashion? The harmonies were by Ron Tree, in the absence of Dave Brock. The keyboards are way too low in this monitor mix. But the multitrack recordings are safe. One day..."




Shot Down In The Night, Original demo, 1979
https://soundcloud.com/steve-swindells/shot-down-in-the-night

"Quality is a bit dodgy, but it's the real deal.
It was recorded onto cassette, I think!
Brock, Bainbridge, King and me.
The pic is of me in the porch of Rockfield studio's Mill House, where we recorded this first demo, in the beautiful adjoining, linked ex-chapel, where we rehearsed."




Turn It On, Turn It Off, Hawkwind/Hawklords demo, 1979
https://soundcloud.com/steve-swindells/turn-it-on-hawklords-wind-demo

"I am indebted to Keith Kniverton for sending me this slightly ropey (in terms of audio quality) demo of my song 'Turn It On Turn It Off', which must have been recorded totally live at The Mill House (the residential rehearsal facility owned by Rockfield Studios in Monmouthshire), where the Hawklords/wind were resident sometime in 1979. I seem to remember sunshine and no money, with me doing all the cooking on no/low budget. I have no memory of why Martin Griffin (and the great Bob Calvert) left, and how the brilliant Simon King came to be playing drums with the band again, albeit briefly. It's a loooong time ago!

This first version of the track features the classic line-up of Simon King (drums), Harvey Bainbridge (bass & harmonies), Dave Brock (guitar & harmonies) and myself on vocals and keyboards.

It later appeared as one of the stand-out tracks on my 1980 album Fresh Blood (featuring Simon King, Huw Lloyd-Langton and Nic Potter), which is now - I'm pleased to say - remastered and available on iTunes and all the usual online outlets - via Atomhenge/Cherry Red."

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thank's Steam - i was at that gig - and what a good one it was! - a year late heehee! haven't read your full post yet - Alan Davey done well that night - Ron sang 'Spirit' very well! - haven't heard a note from that gig since! - such a good night


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BD - the Hawkestra track is good to hear but ..... just check out the 1979 demo! Gold dust to my ears (to mix a metaphor).

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Another one has just popped up on my Soundcloud feed.

Tim "Moonweed" Blake - Sarejevo (Souviens)
https://soundcloud.com/tim-moonweed-blake/sarajevo-souviens-mp3

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catch it over the weekend Steam! - so was the Hound Master the only one not at the Hawkestra? - if memory serves - Del and Dik were there - weird and wonderful night! - i enjoyed Nik too - thought he was good - Dave rocked!


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I've just discovered this on the endless Tube of You.....

"Huw Lloyd Langton - Moonglum (Daze Öf The Undergröund)
A modern re-take of the classic Hawkwind tune by Huw and his band, this track was taken from the Daze Öf The Undergröund - A Tribute To Hawkwind two-disc set available from Godreah Records (2003)."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TvBDXyDK4

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Discovered this after reading the Dave Brock interview that Dell posted.

You may recognise the backing track .....


Jane Weaver - The Electric Mountain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seNGOI7qVqo

"Jane phoned us up and asked to use the backing track from our song Star Cannibal and I said yeah, sure. She put it out as a single, called Electric Mountain. That song was the first time we used a Fairlight Computer, this was back in the 80’s, and I did the bassline, put it into the computer and made it incredibly fast. Jane Weaver’s bass player couldn’t work out how I’d created such a fast bass line so I had to explain it had been through a computer!" - Dave Brock

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SteamAbacus wrote:"Jane phoned us up and asked to use the backing track from our song Star Cannibal and I said yeah, sure.


So if I call up Dave - he'll just send me any track I want - minus the vocals??? Wow! That'd be great! I suppose getting his number is the difficult part...


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visionaryhead wrote:[i]
SteamAbacus wrote: I suppose getting his number is the difficult part...


Try PXR5 ... ?


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 Post subject: Re: Links to obscure Hawkwind (and related) recordings
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I just found this one on SoundCloud. I don't think I recognise this recording - anyone here recognise it?

"Hawkwind - Master of the Universe
This is the track 'Masters Of The Universe' by Hawkwind taken from the Secret Records album '77'."


https://soundcloud.com/secret-records-limited/hawkwind-masters-of-the

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Hawkestra? I was there, last time I saw, great gig.
Sam Fox couldn't do masters properly and they even had Nik in the house..


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 Post subject: Re: Links to obscure Hawkwind (and related) recordings
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That Master of the Universe was from Weird Tapes 2, which I guess is kind of rare these days. It would be nice if Cherry Red got the tapes, cleaned them up and presented them properly.


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Dell1972 wrote:That Master of the Universe was from Weird Tapes 2, which I guess is kind of rare these days. It would be nice if Cherry Red got the tapes, cleaned them up and presented them properly.



Hi again Dell1972.
Here we are again with you demystifying.
I just went back through my emails and could not locate conversation about this, but I recall there was thought that this was unique to this release.

So are you saying there is NOTHING new to be found on any Secret Records release, I.E "Live Sonic Attack" and "77" ?

All rehash?


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Cheers for clearing that up, Dell - I suspected it might be something like that. When I had a look at trhe '77' track listing it did look rather familiar - Hash Cake 77 is the giveaway! I'm sure that material has done the rounds but I'm familiar with it from the 'Anthology, vol I -III' LPs. I never did have the Weird tapes.

I did actually dig out my old Anthology LPs and fire up the record player (a rare occurrence these days) but the version of 'Master of the Universe' on there is not this one.

I love the '77 band (my first exposure was 'Quark, Strangeness and Charm') and for years my 'holy grail' has been a decently recorded live album from that year. A particularly turbulent and chaotic time for the band, though, so I don't hold out much hope for anything beyond bootleg quality.

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I agree entirely Mr. Abacus, I wish had been a bit older than 5 when 1977 happened and was able to see them live then. Then again I'd be really getting on a bit now and not just in my mid 40s... They were brilliant in 77 and I would dearly love to hear a proper recording from that year rather than what we have, which is mostly dotted loosely around a variety of Weird Tapes. Ironically the best is probably actually from 78 with that Bottom Line recording which is the same lineup and just simply stunning. Another favourite is the bootleg in which Bob calls a bouncer an er overweight lady garden for abusing fans at the front...

I do recall the discussion Mike and I had about these releases back in the day and after some searching have found it (it's been over three years!).

hawkwind-77-new-mystery-album-of-questionable-heritage-t4424.html

Basically Hawkwind 77 is:

Disc: 1
1. Masters Of The Universe (Weird 2)
2. High Rise (Weird 3)
3. Uncle Sam’s On Mars (Weird 3)
4. Damnation Alley & Damnation Ally Pt 2 (Weird 3)
5. Welcome To The Future (Weird 2)
6. Robot (Weird 3)
7. Hash Cake (Weird 3)
8. Angels Of Life (Weird 1)
9. Freefall (Weird 1)
Disc: 2
1. Quark, Strangeness and Charm (Weird 2)
2. Over The Top (Weird 1)
3. Magnu (Weird 1)
4. Death Trap (Weird 1)
5. Spirit Of Age (Weird 2)
6. Nuclear Toy (Weird 1)
7. Who’s Gonna Win The War (Weird 1)
8. Sonic Attack (Weird 2)

Live Sonic Attack is:

Track 1 - 5 are tracks 1-5 on Weird 2
Track 6 - 9 are track 1,2,4 and 5 on Weird 4
Track 10 - 13 are from Collectors Edition 1: Complete '79
and the rest are from Colletor's Edition 2.

My caveat on making bold statements like this is that I don't own either record but listened to the sound clips at the time and compared them with the various released I have. Also I had a one year old daughter who wasn't fond of sleeping (at 4 she still isn't so fond of it) so I could have just been hallucinating sound clips and making **** up.

It's worth reading the whole thread, including Mike's heavily edited comments (he has a long standing penchant for this, making rereading stuff quite entertaining, if slightly surreal).

My favourites are:

It is slightly amusing that the liner notes (to HW 77) more or less say "these band members may or may not appear"
i'm discovering I am less creative chewing a tostada
my comments removed due to having lost touch with reality and let my imgination run wild.


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