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 Post subject: Langton's Lead Lines column - Guitarist Magazine
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:05 am 
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Does anybody happen to know which year Huw had his column in Guitarist Magazine? It went by the title of Langton's Lead Lines.

The only information I can find is that he had the column for 6 months in the 1980's. As Guitarist Magazine started in 1984 that narrows it down a little, but only to 1984 - 89.

Basically I'm hoping to be able to get to read some of one of this columns somehow, which might mean narrowing it down to specific issues or trying to get a scan of one (which if anyone has I would be most grateful for). According to the Guitarist Magazine website it looks like back issues in print aren't available and their digital archive on Zinio not surprisingly doesn't go back that far.

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 Post subject: Re: Langton's Lead Lines column - Guitarist Magazine
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Fascinating indeed, Etherealise! :-)
If anything ever crosses onto the radar, I'll be sure to post here!!
< thinking : surely there must be trade expos ~ virtual\pole-and-canopy ~ for collectors of all things ephemeral. I would run an ad with a related circular. If no replies then try the next until you get a hit.


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Thanks Vikmarlo, I'll consider doing that. ;-)

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I've read Guitarist magazine for years but Langton's Lead Lines was before I started to buy the magazine. I first picked up a guitar around '85 and started reading the mag a few years after that. So I'd guess somewhere between '84 and '87? maybe.

I have a load of Guitarist back issues but they only go back to around '92. There is a 25th anniversary issue that might mention something - I'll have a look and report back.

It's a shame Huw's website has lapsed and is no longer available - I think there was some mention of the column for Guitarist on there.

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I've now seen your link to the archive of Huw's site in the other thread, Etherialise. Yes, I see it isn't too specific on exactly when.

The 25th anniversary edition was more about gear over the last 25 years than the history of the magazine - no clues there.

I've known about these columns almost since I first read the magazine but I've never seen them. I'd be really interested to see them if you can track down a file or scan somewhere.

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How about emailing the editor at the magazine? ...

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Always wondered myself and it's a quiet day so did a bit of digging. Seems it's late 1984.

As luck would have it, this listing on ebay has a picture of the contents page which clearly states "Langton's Lead Lines" under techniques:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-GUITA ... Sw1S9WgZeG

Tempted to make a purchase as a guitarist myself...

Looks like his column was at least in August to October - the September one implies it is a follow on from a previous column.


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Good digging, Dell!

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cool! - was he teaching guitar in a Streatham school around the same time?


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According to the info on the archive of Huw's site that was somewhere between '71 and '79, so a little earlier.

"1971 to 1979: Came a variety of gigs. A 2-year acoustic stint in vegetarian London restaurant PASTURES. John ButlerDIESEL PARK WEST'S singer joined him for 6 months and Eddy Klima, RATTLES singer for a further year. He taught guitar at a comprehensive school in Streatham for a year and did numerous sessions, one included writing the music for a cartoon, narrated by Viv Stanshall, BONZO DOG DOO DA BAND and 6 months with LEO SAYER touring UK & Europe."

https://web.archive.org/web/20160119025951/http://huwlloyd-langton.co.uk/index.php/history

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Thanks for the info everyone. I am also tempted by that issue on Ebay Dell. If I end up getting it or another one I will share a scan. :wink:

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Curiosity got the better of me and I've bought a few of these off ebay. I haven't been able to look at them yet though on account of them being posted to work, and me being, well, not there. With a bit of luck I should at least be in a position to comment on them in the next day or two, and possibly share scans. Hopefully it is at least interesting.


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I'd definitely be interested in seeing some scans. I've read a comment on a guitar forum that suggests these may be a bit more interesting than a straightforward guitar techniques column? If I remember correctly it was described as "Huw lloyd Langton's 'boil your strings' and 'knit your own fuzzbox' style column".

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Me too. I did look into buying one myself but the postage was going to cost me double the item cost.

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A lot do seem to be quite expensive but I got a couple cheap with no extra shipping. The seller even threw an extra mag from the following year as one had a torn page. Generally they appear to be a half page of text only, no tabs, notations or diagrams. I've only actually looked at the October 84 one, which is generally advice on buying a guitar without being ripped off - quite interesting. I'll see if I can provide a scan later, plus the other one which is the second part of a two parter. This is the text:

Watch Out, There's a Salesman About!

I was suddenly reminded, while being asked what I thought about a particular low priced Spanish Guitar recently, of the many practically unplayable guitars I have come across, especially on the occasions when I've taught guitar. I would seem that as the instrument is so popular, a lot of stores that would not normally deal in musical instruments have begun to do so, and though the prices are usually fairly low, the quality tends to be the lowest.

Looking back to my days as an assistant in a music shop, I remember, with great respect, our governor sending us back to a particular warehouse time after time until we returned to the store with a guitar that met his standards as a guitar dealer and musician. Although that particular model was one of the cheapest on the market at the time, nothing but the best ever got past the man. It's a great shame that similar moral codes in salespeople seem to be disappearing to a great extent. Whenever someone with little or no experience of guitars is planning to buy one, I would suggest that they seek out as much advice as possible, to ask a friend who knows something about the subject, to accompany and advise them. A first guitar, depending on how playable or unplayable it is, can influence your desire to learn, or make you give up.

The basic thing to look for when purchasing a new or second-hand guitar is that there are no cracks in the wood anywhere on the instrument. I was tempted not very long ago to buy a second-hand electric until, on closer inspection, I found a fairly well concealed crack where the head of the guitar joined the neck. This is common, especially in old guitars, as the neck by the nut is so thin. Cracks along the grain in the wood should be looked for, as a small crack can and probably will spread.

Whether you are buying an acoustic or an electric guitar, the neck is generally the main problem area and so some detailed inspection is advisable.

Warp Test: Rest the bottom end of the guitar on the floor, neck and head vertical, aimed towards viewers face, then looking down the edge of each side of the finger board, it should be evident whether the neck is straight or not.

A good neck is not perfectly straight but should be slightly concave, if you hold the string down onto the first and last fret, there should be a small gap between the centre of the strings and the frets.

If the neck is not warped but is obviously too bowed (or too straight), insist that this is put right before you part with any cash. This should be done with the gauge of strings fitted that you intend to use.

On acoustic guitars or electrics that have no adjustment for intonation, check that the note played on the twelfth fret of each string is the same as the harmonic at the twelfth fret. This should be checked with good strings fitted, as old or dirty strings cause intonation problems in their own right and can be very misleading.

Next is the action or playability of the string on the fingerboard. The distance of the strings from board should be such that they can be comfortably played before and up to the twelfth fret, but not too close to the fingerboard so that buzzing occurs.

Machine heads should be checked for correct operation and look particularly for loose parts or excessive wear which will give you tuning problems.

When you are satisfied that the guitar plays OK acoustically, then turn your attention to the electrics. Pickups don't deteriorate much with use so these will either work or they won't. Look for crackly pots and switches and, if you're handy enough to replace them yourself (which is quite easy if you read GUITARIST) use this as a bargaining point to knock the price down.

Finally and perhaps most importantly, play it and see if you like it!


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