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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:31 pm 
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AlcotRape gets to issue material
from that portion of the catalog

Translation:
Cleptoratrap has Seeing It As You Really Are listed as a track on their compilation.
Testing the astral waters around mothership HAWKWIND.

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this is becoming rather ironic.
AlcotRape paying royalties (if
indirectly through channels)
to the Mothership ? Or are they?

the nail in the boot-toe is that
I now find myself boycotting
HW product ! (at least until the
litigation serves due justice to Dave)

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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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If renruT acquires the band name,...royalties go to him.
That's what I've been pointing out for the past 6 months.
Where does it stop?
1977
1978
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990....etc. up until the present.

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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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I don't think he will acquire anything beyond that which he is rightfully due ~ his actual contributions*



we know Dave Brock isn't playing - that's why we advertised the gig as Nik Turner's Hawkwind'


Not only is Dave Brock not playing,
NO members of Hawkwind are playing !



* Nik Turner authored :

three co-writes ~ ISOS

one song ~ DFL

one song -HOTMG

one song ~ WOTEOT

one co-write ~ ASAM


Seven songs in seven years

Zero songs in the last 40 YEARS ....
because he's not a member of Hawkwind

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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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vikmarlo wrote:I don't think he will acquire anything beyond that which he is rightfully due ~ his actual contributions*



we know Dave Brock isn't playing - that's why we advertised the gig as Nik Turner's Hawkwind'


Not only is Dave Brock not playing,
NO members of Hawkwind are playing !



* Nik Turner authored :

three co-writes ~ ISOS

one song ~ DFL

one song -HOTMG

one song ~ WOTEOT

one co-write ~ ASAM


Seven songs in seven years

Zero songs in the last 40 YEARS ....
because he's not a member of Hawkwind


Right on!


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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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You're much too generous with your offerings of credibility for renruT.
He co-authored the lyrics to 7 songs.
Every one of those songs you mentioned has the patented/trademarked,
Dave Brock music, tempo and guitar riff's.
I'm waiting for reviews on the massive intergalactic US space odyssey.
Nothing as of yet.
What happened at the (cancelled) Borderline show in London on Oct 21st?

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you're quite correct, VG ~ Dave's fingerprints are all over those tracks. I only meant to point out the very limited label-credits to which NT can make claim, apart from any other performance credit.

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You have hit the nail on the head Vik.
Minimal input for renruT to make legal claim to the HAWKWIND monarchy.

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such a pity it came to this I still feel - such is life - I only hope the quietness from HQ is a good thing - my love to all


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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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Exactly as I suspected.
Even though it seems an impossible feat, renruT sounds worse than ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXiphhwcQ4

This is the substandard material we're being bullied into accepting over HAWKWIND?
F*ck you and your intergalactic world odyssey tour.
I've been to the Rickshaw Theater on East Hastings St. in Vancouver.
What was the crowd attendance,.. 50 people?
I know you'll read this so come and get me.
The whole entire lot of you are a bunch of narcissistic pricks.

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VG - thanks for the link - that is without doubt the most cringeworthy, embarassing thing I have ever heard. The clown can't sing and as for his sax playing - oh dear, I really feel sorry for anyone who was conned into parting with their hard earned cash for this drivel.

The judge should be made to watch that and then the real Hawkwind version and make a decision over the name - it would only take 2 seconds.

Long Live the Captain.

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Just found this, only 58 views ..... I listened to bits until I got to Steppenwolf at 25 mins then couldn't go on ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOUOuoaIFDQ


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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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Its this garbage that hurts the name of Hawkwind. Hopefully the pretender will be prevented from this identity theft soon. Fortunately only about 50 people turned up. Found on FB.


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 Post subject: Re: He Who Shall Not Be Named
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I actually hate posting clips of the imposter on here as I'm sure it upsets Dave
and the band.
I wouldn't want to inadvertently give the thieving vermin (or his promoters) one iota
of credibility either.
However,..I believe that being transparent beats being mushroom farmed.
I've tried watching the Portuguese show 4 times but can only stomach a few minutes of it.
As I said prior; destroying HAWKWIND would be like smashing a butterfly with a sledgehammer.
Why do it?

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voilodian ghagnasdiak wrote:Exactly as I suspected.
Even though it seems an impossible feat, renruT sounds worse than ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXiphhwcQ4


If you think that's bad you really, really don't want to hear his cover of Silver Machine that page has a link to. I only wish I hadn't heard it.

So I'll spare you the link.

Talk about sixth rate. Out of time, out of tune, and that's just the band. Who are still better than their "star leader" the self-styled "Thunder Rider". And it's not like it's even difficult to play for god's sake. There are countless musicians playing in their local pubs that could do better with an hour's rehearsal.

How anyone could ever want to tour a performance that's this utterly crap I have no idea. Never mind someone who actually played on the original recording. The man has no shame, pride or dignity left. It's beyond embarrassing.


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