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 Post subject: Few questions
PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:42 pm 
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I have few:

1. Anyone heard first album on vinyl, 2015 release RSD, orange vinyl, parlophone? It was new mastering, was it from digital or analog source, quality comparing to original mix?

2. What do you think about Hawkloards LP? Any good?

3. How many versions of 'Silver Machine' are out there? It was original live mix right? Than from compilation 'roadhawks'? Any more?

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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 12:15 am 
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No one? Shame on you! :) So many experts none of you knows answers :D

Ok. At lest under the number 3, 'Silver Machine'.

This song as I know ws recorded live, right?

It was released on single, not on any album?

Than Dave remix this live song for compilation 'roadhawks' right?

Source for this remix was this live version, right?

Is there any more studio versions?

Now, this should be easy for you experts, I know a lot, but still I am some kind of Motorhead expert. So... If anyone asked me for Ace Of Spades I would know the answer. So... I am waiting. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:22 am 
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I almost went without but then a cheap one showed.

I had made the decision NOT to pop the tire and let the isolated 2015 air come hissing out.


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My thinking is probably that coloured vinyl has marks against it to begin with as far as playback and ease of use, then there is the faulty jacket printing.
Once the shiny plastic seal is gone it will bug me :)

VERY frustrating that my friend has this but will not notice these things (mastering), he can't pay attention close enough this way

Thanks for pointing this out hope somebody uploads


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:27 am 
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R u thinking what I'm thinking, then?


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:29 am 
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That orange release is no good? :)


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:42 am 
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No, I don't know, tell me what you have in mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:47 am 
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black adder wrote:That orange release is no good? :)


No! (it's not possible for anything with the word Hawkwind printed on it to be bad)

I am "looking in the future past"

BTW, the Hawkwind codex was always a little rough for my UFO-redneck-high school dropout mind compared to Mike's Scotland university educator capacity (or whatever it is he does there). I find the simplicity works against me :)

(I miss being on BOC forum with Mike Holmes and Jill, maybe I go back)

Link:

http://www.starfarer.net/hwcodex.html


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:49 am 
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Think P!!

"P" for _________


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:51 am 
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Don't have either of Hawklords gatefolds yet

will you cry for me??


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 2:01 am 
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mike coleman wrote:
black adder wrote:That orange release is no good? :)


No! (it's not possible for anything with the word Hawkwind printed on it to be bad)

I am "looking in the future past"

BTW, the Hawkwind codex was always a little rough for my UFO-redneck-high school dropout mind compared to Mike's Scotland university educator capacity, and always was plenty happy with the harmony he and myself come to share :) :)
NOT a guy you want to tangle with mentally :) :)
I can do it but highly not recommended :) :)

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http://www.starfarer.net/hwcodex.html

Jill as well

But thanks for reminding me that I should go back and rejoin them at the original virtual HW pub and also wondering how I might now get this to the BOC museum curator :)


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Oh, ok. So you do think that this release is ok sound, even it is maybe from digital source? What fault was on jacket and record, I dont have this record so I dont know.

Is it better to get from 1970 german release of this album or this release one day?


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
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mike coleman wrote:Think P!!

"P" for _________


Pierre? :D


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
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mike coleman wrote:Don't have either of Hawklords gatefolds yet

will you cry for me??


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Oh ok :cry:

:D

I am thinkin about this too, one day. Do you see Hawklords as Hawkwind or not? I am reading that some say it is Hawkwind only because of legal issue they used this name, and others say Hawkwind was disbanded and Hawklords was new band. What is the truth?

I know later in 1979 Lemmy save them with Bronze.


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
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I see Brock's Hawklords as "Hawkwind plus"

Hold on


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
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oh, ok. So Hawklords you see as different band. It make sense.

About 'silver machine' which i learned from your link, that we will not know how many versions are there but there are few at least. You can see it from this list.

We agree that live version from roundhouse 1972 was first one?

Here is list:

Silver Machine
1L Orgasmatron {unlisted}
2L Leave No Star Unturned
3L Glastonbury Fayre
3L Assassins of Allah LP
3L Dawn of Hawkwind CD
3L Greasy Truckers Party [3CD reissue]
4 Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 7" [1972]
4 X In Search Of Space [Spanish album and remastered CD only]
4 X In Search Of Space [2011 Back in Black vinyl reissue]
4 Doremi Fasol Latido [Japanese album only]
4 US double 7" EP
4 Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go [German double 7" EP]
4 Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 7" [1976]
4 Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 7" [1978]
4 Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 12" [1978]
4 Silver Machine/Urban Guerilla 7" [Dutch 1989]
4 Stasis
4 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords
4 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set]
4 Sonic Boom Killers
4 Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of
4 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology
4 Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of The Earth CD
4 Masters of Rock
4 Parallel Universe
4 The Very Best Hawkwind Album Ever
4 Essential Hawkwind
4 The Collection [EMI 359 2182]
4a Roadhawks
4a Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 7" [1983]
4a Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 12" [1983]
4a Silver Machine/Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983]
5L BBC Transcription Disc - The Brian Matthews Show
5L Dawn of Hawkwind CD
5L Hawkwind At The BBC - 1972 {Silver Machine [Johnnie Walker Radio 1 session]}
6L BBC Transcription Disc LP
6L Space Rock from London
6L Hawkwind At The BBC - 1972 {Silver Machine [Stereo Mix]}
6aL BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD
6aL Hawkwind At The BBC - 1972 {Silver Machine [Mono Mix]}
7L Early Daze
7L Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin
7L Silver Machine [Legend CD]
7L Entire & Infinite Universe of Hawkwind
7L Hawkwind Live [Brilliant CD]
7L Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin - Live At the Empire Pool 1976
7L Welcome To The Future [Dressed To Kill]
7L Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind Vol 2: Alive From The Darkside
7L Silver Machine - Live!
7L Legends Collection / The Collection
7L Cosmic Overdrive
7L Urban Guerilla
7L Les Genies Du Rock
7L Hawkwind Live [Laserlight]
7L Space Ritual Sundown Vol.2 [Plastic Head Records bonus CD]
7L Return of the Legendary Space Rangers
7aL Empire Pool Wembley 1973
8L Live '79 {Silver Machine (requiem)}
8L Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] {Silver Machine (requiem)}
8L The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD]
8aL The Complete '79
8aL Shot Down in The Night (Live UK 1979)
8aL Live Sonic Attack
9L Silver Machine/Magnu 7"
9L Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk
9L Silver Machine Live 12" EP
9L Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD]
9L Ironstrike
9L British Tribal Music
9L Castle Masters Collection {Silver Machine (live)}
9L Night Riding
9L The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind
9L The Early Years Live EP
9L The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I CD
9L Acid Daze Vol. III CD
9L The Collection {{Silver Machine (Live)}
9L Best of Hawkwind CD {Silver Machine (live)}
9L Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation]
9L Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird)
9L Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {Silver Machine live}
9L Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation]
9L Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD]
10 Choose Your Masques
10 Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [long version]
10a Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [short version]
10a Choose Your Masques [CD only]
10a Spirit Of The Age [Atomhenge 3CD anthology]
10a Space Chase 1980-1985
10b Choose Your Masques [Atomhenge CD]
11L Bristol Custom Bike Show
11L Assassins of Allah LP
11L Dawn of Hawkwind CD {Silver Machine/Paranoia}
12L The Friday Rock Show Sessions - Live At Reading '86
13L Traveller's Aid Trust {Washing [Silver] Machine}
14L Love In Space
15 Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth 12" {12" Mix}
15 Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth CD {12" Mix}
15a Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth 12" {New Mix}
15a Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology
15b Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth CD {Radio Edit}
15b Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of
16L Canterbury Fayre 2001
16L Canterbury Fayre 2001 Promo CDR
17L Out Of The Shadows
18L Take Me To Your Future
19L Knights Of Space

** Version 1 is thought to be from the Kinetic Playgound gig on 12/12/1971
** Version 3 was recorded at the Roundhouse on 13/2/72 and not at Glastonbury
** Version 4 was mixed from version 3 at Rockfield and then overdubbed with Lemmy's vocal
** Version 4a was remixed from 4 for the Roadhawks album by overlapping the end of the
Shouldn't Do That track from the Space Ritual encore with the start of the version 3 single
** Version 6a is a remix from version 6
** 7a is a different audio source from the same performance as 7
** Version 8 stops with an explosion soon after the track begins
** 8a is from the same tour as 8
** The 10th anniversary 7" EP contained both the version from the Choose Your Masques album,
and a shorter edited version. The CD of Choose Your Masques had the full three tracks
from the 10th Anniversary EP and thus contained the full version twice (due to a mastering
error). The EP was also released as a pic disk with the covers from Warrior On The Edge of
Time and Doremi Fasol Latido
** 10b is an edit of 10. Version 10 is the album version, lasting 4:16; 10a is the single edit,
lasting 2:54; 10b lasts for 3:43
** Two versions of Silver Machine on Assassins of Allah LP and three versions on Dawn of
Hawkwind CD
** Two versions appear on the Epoch Eclipse Ultimate Best Of compilation
** 15a is an edit/remix of 15
** 15b is an edit/remix of 15
** Two versions appear on the Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology
** Three Versions appear on the Silver Machine Infected by The Scourge of the Earth CD
** 16L has vocals sung by Arthur Brown
** 18L is a remix - part studio recording that retains some live tracks in the mix


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 Post subject: Re: Few questions
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I DO NOT see Hawklords as a diff band!!

I see it as closer to the aliens!!


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