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 Post subject: beginners guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:11 am 
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I've just got into Hawkwind this year.

And I've already bought a lot of stuff, but it gets hard to see what's good and available beyond the EMI/Atomhenge catalog.
I'll restrict myself for the time being to the 1970-1980 period in order not to go crazy.
My first purchase was the Epocheclipse 3CD set for just 8 Euros, quite a bargain.

So far I've got:
EMI: debut, in search of space, doremi, space ritual (w. DVD), 1999 party

Atomhenge: Amazing Sounds, Quark, Levitation (Ltd.)

I know my next orders will be Hawklords, Hawklords live, PXR5, Live 79.

But where to go from there?

What is good and still available from the 70s? The Atomhenge live album sounds tempting.
And where to start with the post Levitation material.

Any essential DVDs?

All Love Jan

edit: I forgot that I have the Hall of the mountain grill too, and an illegal copy of Warrior.
Can't wait till atomhenge settles the legal stuff and releases that.
So much great music


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 Post subject: Re: beginners guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:39 am 
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The epocheclipse set has 2CDs full of material from 1970-1979 so you're fairly well covered there, so as for post-Levitation era... I think it's safe to say we're all waiting for the Atomhenge reissues of the RCA albums (Sonic Attack, Church Of Hawkwind, Choose Your Masques) so going by what's available, The Chronicles Of The Black Sword and Live Chronicles are a good pickup point, Live In Nottingham 1990 is also worth seeing/hearing (2CD or DVD)... Out Of The Shadows is among the best of the DVDs in my opinion. I also like the Canterbury Fayre 2001 2CD.

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 Post subject: Re: beginners guide
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:02 am 
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hello vallis and welcome
try hall of the mountian grill its a bit more mellow than thier earlier stuff more melodic,less heavy but it has 3 or 4 great tracks

warrior on the edge of time is one of thier classics,but good luck getting it on cd(hello cherryred)

palace springs springs to mind a very good mixture of live(heavily dubbed)and studio stuff

atomhenge is very good and ambient anarchists will give you a good insight of the later stuff
good luck and happy hunting for woteot

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 Post subject: Re: beginners guide
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Maddog he's already got Warrior and Mountain Grill!

valis wrote:
I've just got into Hawkwind this year.

And I've already bought a lot of stuff, but it gets hard to see what's good and available beyond the EMI/Atomhenge catalog.
I'll restrict myself for the time being to the 1970-1980 period in order not to go crazy.
My first purchase was the Epocheclipse 3CD set for just 8 Euros, quite a bargain.

So far I've got:
EMI: debut, in search of space, doremi, space ritual (w. DVD), 1999 party

Atomhenge: Amazing Sounds, Quark, Levitation (Ltd.)

I know my next orders will be Hawklords, Hawklords live, PXR5, Live 79.

But where to go from there?

What is good and still available from the 70s? The Atomhenge live album sounds tempting.
And where to start with the post Levitation material.

Any essential DVDs?

All Love Jan

edit: I forgot that I have the Hall of the mountain grill too, and an illegal copy of Warrior.
Can't wait till atomhenge settles the legal stuff and releases that.
So much great music


Hold off the stuff Atemhenge is yet to release I guess if you can wait that long!

Meanwhile its worth getting the Weird CD's - 8 in all - which have lots of live and demo goodies plus some studio stuff too, covering the early 70's to the early 80's. These won't be getting Atomhenge reissues.

Atomhenge covers 76 onwards but you can get more 70-75 stuff with Space Ritual, BBC Live in Concert 1972 and a CD called 'Atomhenge' which is live 1976 and not to be confused with the record label!

Atomhenge is also only up to 1997, so worth checking out stuff after then, especially In Your Area, Space Brock and Take Me To Your Leader, and Dave Brock solo stuff because Dave Brock IS Hawkwind - Earthed to the Ground/Agents of Chaos (latest reissue has more bonus tracks), Strange Trips, Memo's and Demos.

There's also other solo stuff, some of which is essential, such as Captain Lockheed and Lucky Leif by Robert Calvet and New Worlds Fair by Michael Moorcock. Anything you can find by Robert Calvert, Michael Moorcock, Inner City Unit and Nik Turner stuff is worth checking out, Space Ritual the group (Otherworld LP) and Steve Swindells solo album Fresh Blood is Hawkwind plus him instead of Brock basically.

That should keep you busy :shock: :? :o :shock: :lol:

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grab what you can man.......... its never ending .. :D


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barnetquark wrote:
Maddog he's already got Warrior and Mountain Grill!

That should keep you busy :shock: :? :o :shock: :lol:


i replied before the edit ,your name isn't pike is it stupid boy :lol: :lol:

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maddog davis wrote:
barnetquark wrote:
Maddog he's already got Warrior and Mountain Grill!


i replied before the edit ,your name isn't pike is it stupid boy :lol: :lol:


Now now careful with the language. :shock: :x Did not see it had been edited.

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 Post subject: Re: beginners guide
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barnetquark wrote:
maddog davis wrote:
barnetquark wrote:
Maddog he's already got Warrior and Mountain Grill!


i replied before the edit ,your name isn't pike is it stupid boy :lol: :lol:


Now now careful with the language. :shock: :x Did not see it had been edited.


as if i'd lead anybody astray

try past or future by nik turner ,brilliant version of shouldn't do that,sounds like icu. good versions of opa-loka,dying seas,ejection,lord of the hornets and even silver machine well good for a tribute band

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 Post subject: Re: beginners guide
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Sounds like you've got your collection off to a flying start, valis.

I agree the "Weird" series (a.k.a. "Weird Tapes") would be a good avenue to go down.

If you want early classic space-grunge then the remix version of the BBC "1972 In Concert" is pretty damn good. It has varying names, including "Space London 1972" (not to be confused with "Spaced out in London" which is 2002, I think).

And then you could look at bit torrent sites like dimeadozen.org or pirate bay for audience recordings of Hawkwind, if ever your money gets low. There's several hundred recordings around that don't break the Hawkwind trading conditions.

I'd particularly recommend Torquay 73, Reading 75, any of the autumn 81 "Sonic Attack" shows, Solstice 85 at White Horse Hill, a Hawkdog 88 show (Dave Brock's "Agents of Chaos"), the mass-reunion 3-hour show in Brixton 2000 (known as "Hawkestra"), and Exeter 2003 for starters. You can fill in the gaps later, lol


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Best ask others about live DVD as I am not a fan of them. Lookslike you have had enough advice on where to go. I'd recommend getting Chronicles Of the Black Sword and Live Chronicles as Atomhenge have already issued them. They are the marmite Hawkwind albums, some love 'em other poor misgudied fools don't. However these are being cleansed by the Black Sword Police in, ahem, correction camps.

Stuff to avoid, Dawn of Hawkwind, Bring Me the Head of Uri Gargarin (in all of its many forms, no amount of remixing, remastering can save that), Text of the Festival is worth missing too and unless you're an absolute die hard the Live Collector Series (well, both of them) aren't the best either. Oh and that awful Glastonbury one as well which sound like it was made on a cheap tape held next to a speaker.


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From looking at all the above it seems as if you have been recommended everything except Distant Horizons, as that doesn't appear to be a popular choice on this forum. However, it has a cracking version of Alchemy on it so for me it is a must just for that.

If you do follow all the advice don't forget to save time for a trip to the bank manager. With the output the Hawks have had you will need it.

Have fun.


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Hey!! I like Distant Horizons!! (I like Marmite too!)

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Star4mation wrote:
Hey!! I like Distant Horizons!! (I like Marmite too!)

Alien (I am) :)


A few do. I can't remember the last time I played it to be honest. I doubt I will again until Atomhenge reissue.


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I didn't intend to slag of the album if I came across that way. It has been mentioned as not one of the finest in the past on here which is where my comments came from as te theme is asking for recommendations.
Personnally I quite like it.


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witchwood wrote:
I didn't intend to slag of the album if I came across that way. It has been mentioned as not one of the finest in the past on here which is where my comments came from as te theme is asking for recommendations.
Personnally I quite like it.


Its alright to say you don't like it. This is not the Status Quo Message Board, or indeed the Def Leppard one which you cannot under the forum rules post anything negative about the band! Surely there's no 'arm in doing that though! :roll:


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